Good Lord 4x2 gets expensive

"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228) 07/13/2016 at 08:21 • Filed to: None

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You'd think it would be cheap at £1 per metre, but then you work out that for my 34sqm parts shed I'll need 326m of the stuff, plus either 5x2 or 6x2 for the ceiling joists. Then it's also £379 for the cladding, plus £215 for roof sheets. Jeez :S Have a 4-door skyline for your time...

Cash Rewards > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2016 at 08:33

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Built a fence, ran into the same thing. Two bags concrete per 4x4, 4x4 every 6 feet , two 1x2 and 10 pickets per six get, two hundred feet....I don’t think this is fitting in the cr-v anymore.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Cash Rewards 07/13/2016 at 08:36

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Yeah it’s a bastard. I’ve got ideas for a 3-bay open car-port as well that should be a bit cheaper, but still not as cheap as you’d think!

Definitely can't afford this :S

TheRealBicycleBuck > Cash Rewards 07/13/2016 at 09:03

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I tried to save some time/energy/money by buying pre-built fence panels. I learned that the way they save time/energy/money is by having loose standards on the panel dimensions. I went out and dug a bunch of perfectly-spaced holes only to discover that some panels were longer than my hole spacing (no big deal, I have a saw) and others were shorter than the hole spacing. I had to get creative to make the short panels fit. I was not happy.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2016 at 09:05

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Expensive enough to do anything construction, really - wood or otherwise. I have a younger brother who’s been putting off a storage building for a while because of the expense, and right now he’s got most of his stuff temporarily in the back of a big Grumman truck. We’ve got an extension in the works at my dad’s workshop of forty feet, for which we’ll be making roof girders out of shelving posts - so we own the steel already - but even then, the roof surface and front support beams and the rest will be spendy.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 07/13/2016 at 09:08

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Yeah it’s a bugger, and I am aware that 4x2 stud walling is among the cheapest of options. Just makes you think what some of the larger structures on Garage Journal cost!

A lot of my stuff is either outside (in the case of the Spitfire/MGB shells) or in the back of the Citroen :S

Wacko > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2016 at 09:21

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never heard anyone call it a 4x2. we(in north america) call them 2x4, 2x6,2x8.....

but yes they get expensive very, very quick.

for the past 2 years i have been renovating my house,

I actually lifted my old house 15 feet in the air to basically build a new house, then sat my old house on top of it. just in lumber i probably have about 15000-20000$ cnd. (2x6, 2x4, 2x8, 2x10 and sheets of plywood).

i have over 6000$ in cement for my heated slab, and 2000$ just in foam to insulate my heated slab.

my house over 2 years ago

my house (behind my daughter) last summer (ps not the same jeep as in the first pic)

in the last 2 weeks i the roof and the roof of the garage, changed the old windows, and removed the old vinyl siding.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Wacko 07/13/2016 at 09:26

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Yeah for some unknown reason it’s the other way around here in the UK. We put the big number first.

Bloody hell that’s a project! Very impressive (and scarily expensive). Make sure you post it up when you’re done :) I’m sure there’s a lot people here can learn from.

Cute kid too btw ;)

Wacko > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2016 at 09:42

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so far i got over 80000 cnd spent in my project. Did almost all the work myself. I paid someone to lift and lower the house, since 15 feet is insane for a 28 x 42 house.

my daughter was less than 6 months old when i started, now she is 2 ½. my son is 8 months old.

sad thing is i don’t take the time too take much pics. but will post something when done sometime next year.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Wacko 07/13/2016 at 09:50

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Looking forward to it, and that’s very, very impressive :)

How did it work out cost-wise compared to selling up and buying another place? Here in the UK, house prices are so expensive it's really only gumption and planning permission stopping most people from doing things like that.

Wacko > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2016 at 10:07

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if i was to pay to get the work done it would be cheaper to move.

house prices here are going up and up too. i bought my house in 2007 and in 2014 before i started , my house more than doubled in value.

for the planning/permissions, i was lucky since in my rural area (in a rural area) had no basically no regulations in 2014(except for the canadian and quebec building codes). So that’s why I started in 2014 before I had to get every little thing approved by the city.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Wacko 07/13/2016 at 10:19

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Yeah Britain is the land of high house prices and busybody local councils.

It'd be the same with me, doing everything possibly can myself, but I'm a long way off at the moment...

WiscoProud > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2016 at 10:40

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I'm guessing the UK doesn't have a big timber industry, but that seems high. Getting the better quality 2x4x8 at the home depot by my house works out to $0.63 a foot, or slightly less than half your cost. The cheap stuff for framing is only $0.30 a foot, or less than a quarter of your cost. Is the cost driven up by taxes or just sourcing?

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > WiscoProud 07/13/2016 at 10:43

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Yeah I’d probably bet it’s a combination of supply and demand. Lower population means less demand, and smaller timber industry means more expensive too.

50p per metre would make it a lot more palatable!

WiscoProud > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2016 at 10:48

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Makes sense. It would certainly change the economics of doing DIY projects.

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2016 at 12:33

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If only treated Cedar was readily available everywhere... I do believe it’s around .75 cents a foot for a normal 2x4?

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 07/13/2016 at 12:34

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Also, there was an ad for a KPGC10, but it only came with a normal L24(?) engine and not the famed 432 mill.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura 07/13/2016 at 14:24

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Yeah they were either L20s or L24s. Still, a hell of an aftermarket for those. Enough to surpass the 432 DOHC in some circumstances :)

There’s disappointingly few 4-door GT-R homages out there :(

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura 07/13/2016 at 14:25

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Hmm, with 3.3ft per metre that’d be more expensive!

Is cedar a hardwood though?